Mac Deaver Joins GraceConversation

mdeaverDear readers,

Greg Tidwell has asked to step aside from this dialogue for a while due to other obligations that demand his attention. So that the dialogue may continue, Mac Deaver has kindly agreed to fill in for Greg.

Many readers will already be familiar with Brother Deaver. He graduated from Oklahoma Christian College, received an M.A. from Harding University Graduate School of Religion, and received a doctoral degree from Tennessee Bible College. He has preached for over 40 years, taught at Brown Trail School of Preaching, Southwest School of Bible Studies, and Tennessee Bible College. He is the editor of Biblical Notes Quarterly and is a noted debater on Biblical issues.

Brother Deaver is the father of Todd Deaver, one of the other participants in this dialogue, and Weylan Deaver, who are both ministers of the gospel.

Mac and Phil are coordinating their response to Todd’s and my posts and plan to announce the timing of their reply shortly.

We deeply appreciate the readers’ patience with this transition. We’ll be back to regular posting soon.


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8 Comments on “Mac Deaver Joins GraceConversation”

  1. Glenn Dowling Says:

    Brother Deaver, You certainly have a great deal of education and experience. Where would you classify yourself in the range of Church of Christ preachers? Traditional(the older way) or progressive (the less dogmatic). I have witnessed the evolution of the CofC and have seen 1) more awareness of the Holy Spirit, 2) a move toward grace, and 3)the position on music modified (which has always been the biggest non-issue), in my opinion. To me, the BIGGEST hurdle is the “security of the believer” – no question.

    What say you, sir?

    Glenn Dowling

  2. Nick Gill Says:

    Thank you, Brother Deaver, for helping this conversation continue. May it thrive and may we all grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior, in part because of the willingness of you four brothers to converse about the differences that divide you.

  3. Glenn Dowling Says:

    Brother Gill, More often, it seems that we have a world “going to Hell” and the church “going to the mat.” I have seen the power of the gospel and know it is by God’s grace, through faith that we are saved – and not that of ourselves, lest any man boast.” Isn’t it time to throw out man’s “recipes” for getting saved and get on with spreading the “good news,” which is – God saves?

    How’s that for an introduction? 🙂


  4. Royce Says:

    It will indeed be interesting to see a father and son on opposite view points. I look forward to the conversation continuing.

    Perhaps with some comment moderation this can finally be productive again.

    Thanks to all 4 participants. I do hope Greg will be ok. I understand he has encountered some health issues.


  5. Glenn Dowling Says:

    RE: Two questions on Repentance article by Mac Deavers suggest to me he is of the old school of the CoC. Why? “If we can be save by believing anything then we don’t need the Bible” is obviously silly, evasive, and does not address the real truth. The Bible states in Roman 10:9 “That if you confess with your mouth, ‘Jesus is Lord’ and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead you will be saved.” He also state, “The kind of heart that takes a man to glory is an honest and good one.” Sir, only a heart of the man or woman whose sins have been covered by the blood of Jesus Christ – will be taken to glory. You want to see ones heart? – “The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it” – Jeremiah 17:9
    What is it about grace and saving faith that is go difficulty for some to grasp?

  6. Shawn Paden Says:

    Brother Deaver is just a few steps away from dreams, visions, and new revelations from the Holy Spirit. Apostacy is progressive.

  7. walkinginlove Says:

    Amazing, Shawn you seem to consider the Holy Spirit to be evil, how can you believe that and call yourself a christian?

  8. Glenn Dowling Says:

    I believe Shawn meant to put the “Holy Spirit”(in quotes)

    There is danger in intimating that if one only has the “correct” theology and “obeys” correctly that he will be saved. Many in the Church of Christ seems to overlook the part in 1 Corintians 13 “…and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.

    Use to… and still some in the CoC would say…just read the bible…and like Nike…”Just do it!” disregarding the operation (and power) of the Holy Spirit. In recent years they have “discovered” the Holy Spirit. Praise God!

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